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Post by Shallow Matt on Jul 22, 2003 18:30:10 GMT -5
I quite resent being called a hippy. I can still be a pop Nazi if I define Ladytron as pop. It's just our definition of pop that varies.
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Post by Will on Jul 22, 2003 18:36:34 GMT -5
you love it really!
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Post by Shallow Matt on Jul 22, 2003 18:39:06 GMT -5
I know usually when I say I hate things I mean the opposite, but I really don't think I have the ability to be a hippy. I mean, I don't have the clothes or the long unwashed hair to fit the image.
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Post by fatmancunian on Jul 22, 2003 23:01:40 GMT -5
My brother got a broken nose because of one of the girls from Ladytron!
He was chatting her up at Liverpool University and his mate, who fancied her, accused him of trying to muscle in on her and yukked him!!
Ha ha!
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Post by kittens-in-a-Peaches-frenzy on Jul 24, 2003 10:18:20 GMT -5
The point is they are totally what pop should be all about, daft hair, silly outfits, fabby songs..
the only reason the NME are interested is coz the Tron don't shift any records...they'd soon stop talking to them if they had a top 10 hit
and seventeen is awesome...it's the great lost pop moment of the year...(well, one of them anyhow)...and this fact must be recognised by the awarding of said prize to said song
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Post by Cantona on Jul 27, 2003 19:01:32 GMT -5
17 is a fantastic track. It's a pop song about the pop industry/ fandom, like Altered Images' Dead Pop Stars. But the best bit is the Liz Fraser-esque moany vocal bit. It's great to see it on the list although personally I'd vote for No Good Advice.
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Post by yorkpete on Aug 5, 2003 5:13:40 GMT -5
17 is not Ladytron's best work by any means. It's probably my least favourite song on that album, Blue Jeans and Cracked LCD and a few others are my favourites.
You'd probably classify me as an 'indie/trendy' or whatever, but I didn't read about them in NME. I don't read NME, in fact, because it's shit, and I think most 'indie/trendy' types feel the same way.
I wouldn't say they're pop at all, they're just very good and should be pop.
I wouldn't vote for Ladytron as the track isn't individually strong enough and they aren't pop. My votes with WIGTSF.
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Post by kittens-in-a-Peaches-frenzy on Aug 5, 2003 6:57:50 GMT -5
17 is not Ladytron's best work by any means. It's probably my least favourite song on that album, Blue Jeans and Cracked LCD and a few others are my favourites. but, Y/P, even if you do prefer other tracks off of 'Light & Magic', (I think Blue Jeans is prob my fave, but seventeen's right up there with it) you gotta admit that the lyric: "They only want you when you're seventeen, when you're twenty-one, you're no fun" is masterful!
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Post by zaffra on Aug 5, 2003 7:09:40 GMT -5
I Learned the truth at seventeen that love was meant for beauty queens and high school girls with clear skin smiles who marry young and then retired.
And those of us with raveged faces lacking in the social graces desperatly remain at home inventing lovers on the phone who called to say come dance with me and murmer vague obsenities
Love isn't all it seems at seventeen.
Janis Ians definitive Seventeen listen and weep
Homer simpson sang this for no particular reason in an episode of the Simpsons, he also sang Little Spanish Flea in another episode.
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Post by yorkpete on Aug 5, 2003 7:26:39 GMT -5
Yeah, don't get me wrong, I'm not dissing it, it's a Ladytron song! It is a bit repetitive for me, that's all but, Y/P, even if you do prefer other tracks off of 'Light & Magic', (I think Blue Jeans is prob my fave, but seventeen's right up there with it) you gotta admit that the lyric: "They only want you when you're seventeen, when you're twenty-one, you're no fun" is masterful!
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Post by kittens-in-a-Peaches-frenzy on Aug 5, 2003 7:42:32 GMT -5
Yeah, don't get me wrong, I'm not dissing it, it's a Ladytron song! It is a bit repetitive for me, that's all JUST CHECKIN'
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Post by kittens-in-a-Peaches-frenzy on Aug 5, 2003 7:46:36 GMT -5
I Learned the truth at seventeen that love was meant for beauty queens and high school girls with clear skin smiles who marry young and then retired. And those of us with raveged faces lacking in the social graces desperatly remain at home inventing lovers on the phone who called to say come dance with me and murmer vague obsenities Love isn't all it seems at seventeen. Janis Ians definitive Seventeen listen and weep I adore this song, it's the best song ever written on the topic of awkward adolescence, and is so melancholy.....at her best, Janice Ian rocks in general...have you heard "Ride Me Like A Wave"? if you like Seventeen you'll like this too...it's beeeeooo-tiful just goes to show that all songs titled "seventeen" are inevitably wonderful
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Post by zaffra on Aug 5, 2003 8:45:15 GMT -5
I adore this song, it's the best song ever written on the topic of awkward adolescence, and is so melancholy.....at her best, Janice Ian rocks in general...have you heard "Ride Me Like A Wave"? if you like Seventeen you'll like this too...it's beeeeooo-tiful just goes to show that all songs titled "seventeen" are inevitably wonderful I don't know Ride Me Like A Wave (sounds rude) but she certainly wrote some very beautiful melancholic lyrics - I love the song Jesse which is about a someone waiting for their long lost (dead?) lover to return, not changing a thing in the house, hoping they will come back. I Love sad songs! ;D
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Post by kittens-in-a-Peaches-frenzy on Aug 5, 2003 8:55:37 GMT -5
I don't know Ride Me Like A Wave (sounds rude) but she certainly wrote some very beautiful melancholic lyrics - I love the song Jesse which is about a someone waiting for their long lost (dead?) lover to return, not changing a thing in the house, hoping they will come back. I Love sad songs! ;D I do too! sad songs make me and all at the same time.... Ride Me Like A Wave is v. sensual....rather than rude...but it is about.....you know....ladies....you know... togetherI don't know Jesse, but shall go and unearth it from some corner
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